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RossD20Studios:
From Apex
@RossD20Studios Re: Campaign save point as a resource. Solitairica has this where you can spend gold (increasingly expensive) to to buy a “celestial hourglass” to play against the last enemy again. The key to rogue-likes is to still provide a benefit or progression out of a failed run.

RossD20Studios:
Regarding benefit/progression out of failed runs:

Presently, all of the cards in Summoners Fate are unlocked, however, we have plans to tie card unlocks into the progression of single player. Once we're ready to establish unlock/progression, most cards will be locked by default. As you explore/complete/fail runs, you'll unlock new Summoners and cards that can be used to build decks for subsequent runs.

When starting with a run with a pre-constructed deck, we'll modify the difficulty tier appropriately.

RossD20Studios:
On Peter's Campaign:
Level 1 and 5 were the hardest - Perhaps too much synergy with the AI decks?

From tLark
The room design is good on Peter's campaign
I like the spatial puzzles

Level 2 troll in Castle is awkward and fun
And the random makes replaying more rewarding
Whereas rosses feels too deterministic so you are joylessly replaying rote moves on replay
The difficulty progression is weird, level 1 can be really hard sometimes
I kind of like it short and samey difficulty though
It's quicker to replay

I think it's a matter of removing some combos from ai deck
U want ai not to have synergy
As that's really volatile in attack power

Keeps the brain engaged every replay
U learn strategic weaknesses too but can't overfit the tactics

Yeah I think it is balanced ok that campaign
I liked it a lot
Random spawns is good

I kept hacking down thorns looking for treasure too
I was not really aware of much continuity between levels and did not care either
It seemed loose, like the monsters seemed to change a lot

RossD20Studios:
From Apex:

Regarding progression within a run: A resource, like gold, can help here, but it's not great for the current setup from an RP perspective. You could set up various types of shop keepers (nature summon cards, equipment blacksmith, card upgrades or extra lives, etc) with 3 semi-random items you can buy with gold at the campsites. It adds choices and excitement for the player (What can I unlock? Should I buy this now or wait? Is that thief guardian with extra generation but weaker attack worth it?)
You have to be able to almost instant back-track to a shopkeeper to make this work, and it still doesn't solve the issue of pick-one-of-three cards on victory gameplay.

i.e. you don't want to deal with a shop keeper after every room

The good part of adding a shop is that it forces valuation of the cards (gold cost), and you can write a function for random enemy summoners that scales them to where the player should be. Downside is this doesn't deal with synergy.
Part of the challenge for the current deck building  is that you only reshuffle at the camp. So you have to add new cards between camps to do anything. If you reshuffle every room, you would need to stop mana carry-over, but purging cards from the deck becomes valuable
So paying increasing amounts of gold to purge cards from the deck can be an interesting shop keeper
e.g.: first purge costs 5, second is 15, third is 50, etc.

Bad part of reshuffle and starting a 3 mana is that 5 mana cards become less valuable.

RossD20Studios:
From Outlander on Discord:

I was just catching up on chat, and regarding the deck building, I had an interesting concept that may work for it, that both gives you choices when you have 2000+ cards and also has the randomness that you want in a rouge like, but also takes synergies into account.

So imagine a branching path that whenever you chose a card it sends you down that path and determines what is offered next time.  except that there are many branches and the game only offers you a random 3 from the many possible options.

So you have first pick Option 1, 2, and 3.  you pick 2.  Well option 2 has 14 paths that have cards that would promote good synergies. but only 3 of those 14 are offered on your next pick, then the process repeats.

my only concern  with this method is that its a lot of work for the dev team to create these synergy paths in the first place.

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